a summary of my experience with getting into comic books
it’s comforting to know that no matter how badly i screw up my life i will never make choices as terrible as dc comics
When I read the description for the panels DC wanted fans to draw for Harley (the naked bath tub suicide especially), all I could think was “Is there something mentally wrong with them?” And, really, I’ve been wondering that about Dan DiDio for some time now and, recalling Harley’s former vocation, this strip ending up writing itself. I hope she’s able to get to the root of Dan’s problems, for every DC reader’s sake.
The peeling logo is the word “no” because it needed to be on there twice.
My dream has come true. Thank you so much Jeff, this is bloody amazing!
Saying heroes can’t have a personal life or love lives is fundamentally wrong and flawed.
Sometimes what makes a hero great is that they are a reflection of us at our best and, even when at their worst, they are unable to stop hearing and seeing the suffering around them. They are overwhelmed by the need to do something out of a fundamental compassion towards others, a love of those around them and to protect those they still have and all those that they have gained.
A personal life, lovers, friends, family, helps define a hero in ways that you can’t even begin to quantify.
For me, I’ve always found the personal lives of the heroes more interesting than fighting villainy. It helps me connect with them more if I know what they are like outside of crime fighting. It also helps inform the character and where they are coming from in terms of background and intent.
In the current round of Marvel VS. DC, Marvel wins not because they are genuinely better but because DC is actively trying so hard to lose
Wow, Dan, not the most mature response to this you could have had.
And yes, he actually said this, this isn’t a photoshoppy thing.
I’m writing this piece because I wanted someone else to do it and no one else had (that I know of). I wanted a living document of the events that seem to be unraveling one of the oldest and greatest comic book publishers. I love DC Comics, though I fear you’d never know it looking at this website. I’ve expressed my disappointment with the company many times here, and unlike a lot of fans, my complaints aren’t about them wiping the slate clean with the New 52, but about the public appearance of a hostile, poisonous working environment for comic book creators. I’m really hoping the ship rights itself. I’m hoping that I can stop updating this list because DC’s creators are happy and the books are healthy.
As it is, this list will be updated as major changes continue to happen. I tried to limit the list to big events (some of them strictly to give context) or surprising and sudden changes. I am not listing the kind of typical writer or artist changes that occur when a book has been given a chance to sell or when the creators want to move on because their arc is finished. If there are any major events I’ve forgotten, let me know in the comments section and I might add it to the piece.
(To be fair, and to show that this isn’t the way things typically run at a major comic company, Marvel has announced and then canceled one book in the past year before its first issue. Thanos, to be written by Joe Keatinge, was sidelined when Marvel changed their mind on the project, post-Avengers film.)
9/2009 - DC Entertainment is formed. Diane Nelson is name President of the newly labeled company, which includes DC Comics, but also all DC-related multi-media ventures and licensing. Nelson’s background is not in comics but in brand management. The timing of DC’s restructuring is of note, as it comes just a couple of weeks after Disney’s $4 billion buyout of Marvel.
2/18/2010 - Dan DiDio and Jim Lee are promoted, sharing the title Co-Publisher. DiDio was DC Executive Editor (basically Editor-In-Chief, since the position didn’t exist during DiDio’s tenure) and Lee was Editorial Director of his own WildStorm imprint, which moved from Image to DC Comics in 1998. Writer Geoff Johns was promoted to Chief Creative Officer, a position created to allow someone from within DC the opportunity to oversee and exercise some measure of creative control over DC products like films, television, and video games.
9/21/2010 - DC splits their offices between New York City and Burbank, CA. Lee is a West Coaster anyway, and this allows the company to have more direct physical contact with Warner Brothers’ TV and film.
9/27/2010 - Bob Harras is named DC Comics’ Editor-In-Chief. Harras held the EIC position at Marvel Comics from 1995-2000.
12/16/2010 - Nick Spencer is the first notable casualty in DC’s new “fired before the first issue hits” practice, when he’s announced as the new writer for Supergirl, then replaced on his very first issue by “co-writer” James Peaty.
8/31/2011 - The New 52 launches with 52 new monthly titles starting with all-new #1 issues, wiping the slate (mostly) clean and hoping to entice new readers with easy reading entry points.
9/16/2011 - Writer John Rozum quits Static Shock. due to disagreements with editor Harvey Richards and artist Scott McDaniel. The series is eventually canceled after just eight issues.
9/19/2011 - J.T. Krul is replaced on Green Arrow the same month as its first issue is released.
9/30/2011 - Writer-artist George Perez announces his departure from the flagship Superman book the same month its first issue is released. Perez completes his first arc, but is the first to dish on behind-the-scenes problems, “Unfortunately when you are writing major characters, you sometimes have to make a lot of compromises, and I was made certain promises, and unfortunately, not through any fault of Dan DiDio, he was no longer the last word, I mean a lot of people were now making decisions; they were constantly going against each other, contradicting, again in mid-story.”
10/12/2011 - Editorial conflicts and strong differences of opinion with co-writer and artist Ethan Van Sciver cause writer Gail Simone to step away from Fury of Firestorm.
11/14/2011 - Ron Marz leaves Voodoo after his script to issue #5 is tossed out by editors. The series is canceled after ten issues.
1/19/2012 - DC Entertainment shows off their new logo. This fan wonders why the new logo didn’t debut with the New 52 re-branding.
2/1/2012 - DC officially announces Before Watchmen, directly against the wishes of series creator Alan Moore. Rights to the Watchmen property were to revert to Moore and co-creator David Gibbons a certain number of years after the series was out of print, but DC has kept the book in print since its release (and for good reason - it’s a perennial best-seller). Though Moore swore off DC in the late 1980s, some creative entanglements with DC continued, with work on V for Vendetta and titles under the WildStorm line. With Before Watchman, Moore fans realize any chance of reconciliation is permanently off the table.
4/20/2012 - Vertigo writer Chris Roberson (iZombie, Fairest) leaves DC and publicly burns bridges with the company. “Sorry. In a better world, characters like the Legion would be owned by a more ethical company, but sadly not in this one. The short version is, I don’t agree with the way they treat other creators and their general business practices.”
8/23/2012 - Rob Liefeld leaves all of his DC duties - writing and drawing Deathstroke and writing Grifter and Savage Hawkman. He cites major conflicts with editor Brian Smith, and says of his time at DC, “Reasons are the same as everyone’s that you hear. I lasted a few months longer than I thought possible. Massive indecision, last minute and I mean LAST minute changes that alter everything. Editor pissing contests… No thanks. Last week my editor said, ‘Early on we had a lot of indie talent that weren’t used to re-writes and changes. [That] made it hard.’ Uh, no, it’s you.”
12/3/2012 - Long-time editor Karen Berger steps down from Vertigo, DC’s “mature readers” publishing imprint.
12/9/2013 - Writer Gail Simone is unceremoniously dumped from Batgirl, a book with solid sales and a strong fanbase, with no apparent explanation, through an email from editorial.
12/21/2013 - Gail Simone is re-hired on Batgirl after massive fan outcry.
1/14/2013 - Robert Venditti, the announced writer of the all-new Constantine book, is replaced by Ray Fawkes before his first issue hits the stands.
1/14/2013 - Jim Zubkavich, hired to write Birds of Prey, is removed from the book and replaced by Christy Marx before his first issue hits the stands. Nick Spencer, who had a similar experience on Supergirl in 2010, finally speaks out, “Seeing lots of ‘that’s how it is in this business,’ stuff in regards to the day’s news. It really isn’t, and it certainly shouldn’t be. To be a little more direct: the way DC treats a lot of their freelancers is absolutely abhorrent. When it happened to me on Supergirl, I didn’t say much, because I didn’t want to dwell on the negative. But when you see it happen to so many good people, and the damage it does to their careers, their incomes, etc…It’s just not okay. I don’t understand the need for it, and I wish it were otherwise. I love DC, love the characters, and I know I did some of my best work there. And I’m very happy for my friends who have been successful there. But I would tell any creator - especially newer, younger ones - to be extremely careful in doing business there.”
1/16/2013 - Superman Family Adventures duo Art Baltazar and Franco discover that their book has been canceled when that month’s Previews catalog lists the latest solicitation as the book’s final issue.
1/25/2013 - Keith Giffen leaves Legion of Superheroes after just two issues. The pairing of artist Giffen with writer Paul Levitz was to be a re-united “dream team” for Legion fans, since both creators brought the book to critical and sales heights in the 1980s.
3/13/2013 - Insurgent , a creator-owned 6-issue sci-fi mini-series (from screenwriter Todd Farmer), is axed after three issues (especially stinging considering the series was shelved for nearly three years due to the DC purchase of Wildstorm). Sales were low, but cancellation of a mini-series is almost unheard of, as publishers will typically ride out the low sales knowing that they have no obligation to continue the arc past its already-established finite number. Some explanation for the first issue’s low sales might be blamed on the fact that the title appeared under the “DC Kids” section of the Previews retailer order form despite being made for adults.
3/20/2013 - Josh Fialkov quits both Green Lantern Corps and Red Lanterns before his first issues hit the stands. Rumors swirl that editorial wanted to kill off the Green Lantern John Stewart, but if it was ever planned (DC denies it), the company has decided against it…for now.
3/20/2013 - Andy Diggle, who was to take over the reigns on Action Comics after Grant Morrison’s departure, leaves the book before his first issue hits the stands, citing “professional differences.” DC announces Tony S. Daniel as his replacement, but…
3/22/2013 - Tony S. Daniel leaves Action Comics the same week he gets the new writing assignment.
3/26/2013 - Bleeding Cool notices that writer Mike Johnson, already scheduled to leave Supergirl, bows out much earlier than expected, with his name still on the cover of a book he was supposed to write and didn’t.
3/29/2013 - Bruce Timm, Supervising Producer of WB Animation and the man behind every DC animated project since Batman: The Animated Series debuted in 1992, steps down, disinterested in the increasingly popular direct comic-to-film adaptations that the company produces. In this fan’s eyes, Timm’s contribution as a “welcome wagon” to the entire DC Universe can not be overstated. He kept DC characters on TV for 20 years in lively, well-made shows and is responsible for a whole generation of DC fans.
4/9/2013 - DC replaces Mico Suayan as artist on Red Hood and the Outlaws after the gruesome cover to #19 leaks to Bleeding Cool. Unchanged credits on the book reveal that the decision may have been a last minute one.
5/17/2013 - Long-time DC writer James Robinson leaves Earth 2 and DC Comics. The move comes as a surprise as Robinson’s enthusiasm for the book and long-term plans for the Earth 2 version of Batman had been heavily publicized. “I’m no longer working at DC Comics,” Robinson tweeted.
8/1/2013 - DC heads Dan Didio and Jim Lee address the editorial troubles. “I think it’s actually been a little bit less in the last decade than it’s ever been,” Didio said, which dodges the question of just what the heck is going on over there right now. Jim Lee is more direct, but throws creatives under the bus a little for not being able to properly collaborate, “To me it’s the normal course of business in that not everyone’s going to agree creatively what to do with a book. The company has to reserve the right to control the destiny and the futures of the characters, and the creators have to decide if they’re willing to work in an environment where they’re telling their story but in the framework of a universe that has continuity and you have to work with all of these other different creators and editors that would want to control the directions of the characters.” This doesn’t explain how these same creatives are able to collaborate as work-for-hire elsewhere.
8/9/2013 - Justice League 3000 was to be a “dream team” book reuniting writers Keith Giffen and J.M. DeMatteis with artist Kevin Maguire. Somewhere along the way, DC got cold feet with the lighter direction of the book (before the first issue had hit the stands, of course, because why wait for the fans’ reactions) and fired Maguire, replacing him with Howard Porter. “I’m still a bit perplexed as to how it got to this point,” said Maguire, reflecting the feelings of many fans who wondered why DC would even hire the beloved Justice League International veterans in the first place if they didn’t want a book that was anything like Justice League International.
8/23/13 - DC launches a third version of the New 52 Lobo, the only character in the New 52 to experience three reintroductions since the company rebranding just two short years ago (first by Rob Liefeld who was told to drop Lobo’s biker look, then a more traditional take by Jim Starlin, and now an all-new take on the character, who retroactively replaces those versions, designed by Kenneth Rocafort). Regardless of fan outcry over Lobo’s slimmed-down, younger look, the third Lobo reboot stands as an example of conflicting editorial direction with no guiding vision over the New 52 universe.
9/5/2013 - Citing last-minute editorial meddling on approved storylines (and not because of an anti-gay marriage stance from DC Comics, as some spreading the news would have you believe), J.H. Williams III and W. Haden Blackman stepped down from their duties on Batwoman. Williams stated on his site, “All of these editorial decisions came at the last minute, and always after a year or more of planning and plotting on our end. We’ve always understood that, as much as we love the character, Batwoman ultimately belongs to DC. However, the eleventh-hour nature of these changes left us frustrated and angry - because they prevent us from telling the best stories we can. So, after a lot of soul-searching, we’ve decided to leave the book after Issue 26.”
SUICIDE, SUICIDAL IDEATION TW
In order to participate in DC’s latest talent search, you have to draw a female character committing suicide naked.
I’m gonna assume I don’t have to explain what’s fucked up about this.
But guys, they left an open submission form on their page! They claim they will personally review every submission!
I see this as an opportunity to spam their box with a Hawkeye-Initiative style inversion of genders. Give them a naked Superman committing suicide, or just give them a bunch of pics of Superman’s ass, whatever.
I say we make this viral and shame them out of this talent search.
WOW. ARE WE REALLY
we’re done here
burn dc comics to the ground
salt the earth
put up a waffle stand
are you fucking shitting me
………..burn mother fuckers burn.
You know, I was just talking about something like this with a friend.
Let’s fucking do this.
Please, someone, spam the ever-loving shit out of DC? I’m not saying Marvel doesn’t fuck-up in the female department either but this? This is fucking gross.
Well DC, you keep proving me wrong on “They can’t do worse things right?”
Read more here.
From the moment DC asked us to write Batwoman — a dream project for both of us — we were committed to the unofficial tagline “No Status Quo.” We felt that the series and characters should always be moving forward, to keep changing and evolving. In order to live up to our mantra and ensure that each arc took Batwoman in new directions, we carefully planned plotlines and story beats for at least the first five arcs well before we ever wrote a single issue. We’ve been executing on that plan ever since, making changes whenever we’ve come up with a better idea, but in general remaining consistent to our core vision.
Unfortunately, in recent months, DC has asked us to alter or completely discard many long-standing storylines in ways that we feel compromise the character and the series. We were told to ditch plans for Killer Croc’s origins; forced to drastically alter the original ending of our current arc, which would have defined Batwoman’s heroic future in bold new ways; and, most crushingly, prohibited from ever showing Kate and Maggie actually getting married. All of these editorial decisions came at the last minute, and always after a year or more of planning and plotting on our end.
Excuse me while I murder something.
Well there goes the last physical book I was still buying from DC. Digital only like Li’l Gotham from now on.
Great job, DC. Great job.
the funniest thing about the new Lobo is that we had a younger version before
and Didio hated his guts
I miss THIS lil Bastich.
But Didio is basically confirmed to hate everything I loved about DC Comics.
According to Peter David, Didio actually said “”Slobo” ruined the character of Lobo”
Oh Gabz, I can even source link that one for you. [link]
Didio: “No – honestly – Lobo is a character that’s dark, dangerous, edgy, and over the top. […] It’s ruining something stronger. [Slobo] ruined Lobo, in my opinion. It’s selling a character down the river for a laugh, and I never want to do that. I never want to sacrifice a single character for a single laugh. At the end of the day, you do more damage than good. You may get one funny laugh, but you hurt the character in the long run, and that’s not the right thing to do.”
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry here.
PAD: “…even [Didio] admits the book was turning a profit. So pointing to these iconic characters–characters so “iconic” that DC did away with them–and complaining that sales didn’t reflect their presence is really beside the point.
As for Slobo, I wanted to introduce a Wolverine-esque character to stir things up. Since the book featured junior versions of Superman, Batman, and the Flash, a junior version of Lobo seemed perfectly appropriate. A character who was, in his execution and handling, far more serious than Dan remotely gives him credit for (because, y’know, having Slobo go slowly blind was such a knee-slapper of a storyline). And, frankly, I think that a company that raped and murdered Sue Dibny, murdered Blue Beetle, tortured and crippled Batgirl, and had both Superman and Wonder Woman at various times cold-bloodedly murder opponents, doesn’t get to say that *I* ruined one of their characters.”
my hoodies - damian wayne
a little suprise waiting for you at the workshop because you’re forever the best damian eheheh ♥ this one was made 100% just from the leftovers, nothing goes to waste! i was kind of trying to keep not only the costume’s design and colors but also the shape? it’s barely visible on the pics but i’ve managed to give it the vertical stitches just exactly like on original dami’s vest 8D
(also you can easily tell the photos just suck overall this time because i was the one taking them, oops)
Dustin you troll
I was laughing for ages
( For those of you who don’t know x’s on pencils are indicators for the inker to fill in with black )